Here I interview Tjanara Goreng Goreng, author of the no-holds-barred memoir “A Long Way From No Go” where she reveals in breath-taking honesty why Aboriginal sacred knowledge (how to bring the rain and look after the land) isn’t shared.

But also how it could be made possible.

What’s extraordinary is that a magpie comes and seems to be listening intently to the entire interview. At certain points, it comes in between us as if to get closer…